A Reflection on Our First Podcast Appearance with Minding Our Business
When Nicole and I were invited to be guests on the Minding Our Business podcast, we had no idea how refreshing it would be to step outside the therapy room—and still be in a space that felt just as honest, raw, and human.
This was our first podcast appearance as co-founders of PA Behavioral Services, and it was truly an experience where we got to talk not just as therapists, but as people juggling parenting, business ownership, and life in general.
The episode, Clinician-Approved Coping for Entrepreneurs, dove into something we see every day in our clients—and live every day ourselves: the pressure to hold it all together.
Spoiler alert: No one does. And that’s okay.
Therapy Talk… Without the Therapy Voice
One of the reasons Nicole and I started PA Behavioral Services was because we saw how hard it is to find therapists who actually feel relatable. We built our practice to be just that—accessible, compassionate, real.
During the podcast, we talked about how we met in grad school over a zebra cake (yes, really), became best friends, and eventually co-founded a virtual group practice that now serves clients across Pennsylvania.
And while we laughed a lot, we also kept it honest about what it takes to balance it all—especially when you’re both moms and business owners. Our kids, our partners, our dogs—none of that disappears when we log into a therapy session. And truthfully, we don’t want to pretend it does.
Coping in Real Life, Not Just in Theory
We didn’t go on the podcast to give a list of self-care buzzwords. We talked about what it actually looks like to care for your mental health in the middle of chaos.
One of the biggest takeaways was the importance of taking intentional breaks—even if it’s just five minutes. Whether it’s a puzzle (my personal go-to), a walk, or sitting in silence, those micro-moments are how we reset.
We also talked a lot about boundaries. For those of us working from home, especially in helping professions, it’s easy to feel like we’re failing on all fronts. I’ve had sessions where I’m downstairs with a patient, and I can hear the chaos happening upstairs—dogs barking, kids crying, the whole circus. When that happens, I don’t pretend it’s not real. I’m honest. I name it. And most of the time, my clients are not only understanding, they’re relieved that I’m showing up as a human, not just a clinician.
Our Style, Our Specialties
On the clinical side, Nicole and I complement each other really well. Her specialty is anxiety and OCD, and she’s got extensive training in Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP), ACT, and Prolonged Exposure for trauma.
My background leans more into trauma work, addiction, and personality disorders, and I’ve done a lot of training in community mental health. I use a more insight-oriented style—helping people unpack their “why,” explore their reactions, and find ways to shift what’s no longer serving them. I also work with co-occurring disorders and offer supervision for other clinicians working toward licensure.
We each bring something different to the table, but the core of what we offer is the same: therapy that treats the whole person.
It’s Not Always About “Fixing” Everything
Sometimes, the most therapeutic thing you can do is give yourself a moment to not fix anything. That’s what this episode reminded me of.
As therapists, we teach mindfulness, boundaries, and compartmentalizing all the time. But we also live it. And sometimes, that looks like walking upstairs to a toddler blowout, a barking dog, and a burnt hand—and choosing to take five minutes with a puzzle before diving back in.
Because real life doesn’t stop. But we can slow down.
Let’s Keep the Conversation Going
If you haven’t listened to the episode yet, I really hope you do. It’s funny, real, and full of useful ways to cope that don’t feel like “textbook therapy.” It was such an empowering space to be part of, and we’re grateful to Jess and Jonesy for having us.
If anything we talked about resonated with you—or if you’re looking for support that meets you exactly where you are—we’d love to connect.
We’re here to help you feel safe, secure, empowered, and supported—without having to leave your house.
Christina Lees, LPC
Co-Founder, PA Behavioral Services
Licensed in Pennsylvania and New Jersey
This episode was recorded on the Minding Our Business podcast, co-hosted by Jess Sadusky (Realtor, Investor, Mompreneur) and Dan Jones of MANYResults.com. If you’re a business owner, entrepreneur, or creator navigating the rollercoaster of work and life, this show is a must-listen.
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